Mideast upheaval to alter peace talks - Xinhua

by Adam Gonn

JERUSALEM Feb. 10 (Xinhua) -- With the world's media focused on the street protests in Egypt that now has entered their 17th day, observers are asking whether the Israeli-Palestinian peace process will be put on the backburner because all eyes are on Egypt.

Following the successful ousting of Tunisian President Zine al- Abidine Ben Ali three weeks ago, a wave of popular protests have been sweeping the Middle East with large-scale demonstrations in Egypt, Jordan and Yemen calling for regime change.

Ever since direct Palestinian-Israeli peace talks started in the early 1990s, they have been grabbing headlines across the world. However, with the process mired in stalemate for the last couple of years, fears are rising that it will slip from the consciousness of world leaders at a time when it needs their involvement perhaps more than ever.

Analysts that spoke to Xinhua said that the protests in Egypt and across the region will definitely in the near future receive more attention, but in the long run could lead to a stronger Palestinian position against Israel, if Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak steps down.

STRONGER PALESTINIAN POSITION

Palestinian analyst Hani Masri said that while the peace process is dead at the moment, once the dust settles in Egypt there will be a new reality. That will affect the talks in a positive way for the Palestinians.

"It will be difficult (for Israel) to continue in the same way as before because the Palestinian stand will be stronger and they will be able to reject Israeli positions," Masri said.

"When Egypt becomes a democracy, this will help the Palestinian issue because it will show us that the Egyptian people can rule themselves," he said, adding that this would be better for the Palestinians than the Mubarak regime.

Asked if what is happening in Egypt could spread to Jordan, the only other Arab state that has a peace treaty with Israel, Masri said that it might be possible but that "Jordan has some national characteristics that are not present in Egypt," which makes the situation in Jordan more complicated. Jordan's King Abdullah II has already made some government changes following events in Egypt.

Looking forward, Masri said that what is needed now is another "serious" peace process, but it will take some time before that happens. He said one of the most important preparations for a new process will be the unification of the Arab and Palestinian positions so that a united front can be presented against Israel.

INTERNAL UPHEAVAL

Prof. Mohammed Dajani, director of the American Studies Institute at Al-Quds University in East Jerusalem told Xinhua that in the long run the protests in Egypt will have a positive impact on the peace process and the Palestinian people.

"Egypt is one of the leading Arab countries so whatever events that take place in Egypt affects the region; it has a very strong ripple effect on the countries around it, particularly on the Arab countries," he said.

Dajani believes that Egypt has played a very big part in the peace process and what's happening in Egypt is connected to the peace process. He pointed out that some of the slogans being heard during demonstrations in Cairo - such as "Revolution until victory " - are old Palestinian slogans from the 1960s.

While most commentators have said that protests in Egypt are solely focused on domestic issues, Dajani disagreed.

"It's not only about food and about jobs," he said. "It's also about dignity, about peace, about what is happening in the area and about not just being followers of other big countries."

Dajani agreed with Masri that Egypt's future part in the peace process will be more "moderate," which may bring "equity and balance of the players" that are the main actors in the process.

The protests in Egypt may not only affect inter-governmental relations. According to Dajani, they may also inspire people in the West Bank and Gaza to protest against both the Israeli and government and Palestinian leadership.

"I do believe that in the near future the frustration with the peace process, as well as the frustration with economy and political situation might also lead to protests here," he said.

He added that issues such as the continued Israeli occupation and land grabbing as well as corruption in Palestine would act as "drops adding and then over-spilling."

GAME CHANGER

Gad Gilbar, professor of Middle East modern history at the University of Haifa, said that what is happening in Egypt will not only have a profound effect on the peace process but on the region as a whole.

However, Gilbar also pointed out that predictions about what will happen in Egypt and how that might affect the region are still very speculative since the situation is changing on a daily basis.

He said that one of the earliest assumptions - that Mubarak would step down - has still not happened and that it may take anything from two months to two years before we know what is happening in Egypt.

If the Muslim Brotherhood, which opposes the Egyptian peace treaty with Israel, will be given power in a future government then "we can forget about the peace process," Gilbar said.

Dr. Maha Azzam, an associate fellow at Middle East and North Africa Program at the British think-tank Chatham House, believes that popular protests in Egypt and other countries across the Middle East will grab some of the attention from the Israel- Palestinian peace process.

"Inevitably what is happening in the region is going to take much attention of the people in the region, and also of the U.S.," Azzam said.

However, in order to have stability in the region there is a need to keep a close eye on what's happening with the Israeli- Palestinian issue, Azzam added.

Azzam agreed that events in Egypt will affect the way the Palestinian people view and judge their own leadership, which will lead to demands for greater accountability and transparency.

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had hoped that Hosni Mubarak would remain in power forever, for the sake of preserving "stability." Now the Egyptian ruler is fighting for his political life in Cairo's Tahrir Square, his cohorts in the region are trembling with fear that the revolution will sweep away their regimes as well, and Netanyahu is being forced to navigate Israel through the storm.

The crisis across the border caught Netanyahu in midterm, just as his government lost its way. Instead of leading, he seems to be biding his time in the Prime Minister's Office until the next election. In the absence of progress, he is busy dealing with embarrassing hitches, like the appointment of the next chief of staff.

Prime Minister Netanyahu speaking in the Knesset, February 2, 2011.

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His last-minute decision to be rid of Maj. Gen. Yoav Galant did not strengthen his image. He was late in intervening in the defense establishment crisis, and now he's trying to pass the buck to his widely hated defense minister, Ehud Barak. Unexpected changes inherently generate anxiety, and the public looks to its leaders for reassurance and direction. The era of revolutions in the Middle East could be Netanyahu's chance to foment change and to apply what he has ostensibly learned from the biographies of Winston Churchill and Theodor Herzl.

Netanyahu's confidants insist that he wants to achieve a settlement with the Palestinians and that he is disappointed at Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' refusal to negotiate with him. They talk about policy plans Netanyahu forged with Barak and about secret missions by attorney Yitzhak Molcho in search of a diplomatic breakthrough.

Netanyahu and his court remained silent in the wake of the Al Jazeera revelations about the details of the Kadima government's negotiations with the Palestinians, and following the publication of excerpts from Ehud Olmert's memoirs, which revealed the map the former premier had presented Abbas. Maybe Netanyahu wants to entrench Olmert's narrative, which portrays Abbas as an evasive rejectionist. But by his silence, the prime minister is intimating that Kadima's offers are not "dangerous and irresponsible concessions" and that if the Palestinians try him, they will find there is something to talk about.

Netanyahu has a dual interest, external and internal, to advance on the Palestinian track. Israel's international isolation is increasing. German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who this week visited Israel, urged Netanyahu to advance the political process. Israel's strategic ally Hosni Mubarak is about to leave the stage. U.S. President Barack Obama, who abandoned the region after his failure to mediate between Netanyahu and Abbas, this week reappeared as the prophet of democracy and change, urging Mubarak to resign immediately. If Obama's call is indeed met, the U.S. president will return to the Israeli-Palestinian arena, too, and will hand Netanyahu the bill.

Domestically, Avigdor Lieberman has usurped the leadership of the ideological right from Netanyahu. If he is to return to the political center, Netanyahu needs a political breakthrough that will steal the agenda from Kadima leader Tzipi Livni. Netanyahu is still the dominant figure in the political arena, with Lieberman fearing a potential criminal indictment and Barak having lost his party backing.

Speaking in the Knesset on Wednesday, Netanyahu mentioned his concern that change in Egypt could transform it into "another Gaza." He warned against prolonged instability. But he did not just scare his listeners, he also presented solutions: "fortifying Israel's might" (strengthening the army ) and striving for peace with the Palestinians, based on rock-solid security arrangements. The premier spoke about peace as an essential element for Israel's security and made an almost desperate call to Abbas to talk to him. In softened tones, he attacked the "skeptics" (Lieberman ) who do not believe in a peace agreement. Netanyahu expects more flexibility from Abbas, in light of the threat to his rule.

The prime minister has received a second chance - another opportunity to sit for the leadership matriculation exam, as it were. This is his chance to show that he did not return to power only for the limo and the home on Balfour Street.

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Reply again LatestMost ViewedMost RatedOpen all 19.152View >Israel already turned down an extraordinary deal John 05.02.11 04:38

It wont and cant get any better

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18.52View >Need for unity government Isaac Barr MD 05.02.11 02:50

No matter to which analyst you listen the fact is that Israel is facinga dire, life threatening situation. Not only that the inside petty warshave to stop but Kadima must join the government. Livni must stop herhysterical escapades and selfish goal. Kadima must join this governmentat the request of PM Netanyahu. If Mr. Netanyahu is tired, somethingthat is understandble, he should delegate Livni some of his many responsibilities.

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17.153View >Peace Deal Solange 05.02.11 02:14

There is no peace deal to be had. There is Israel, Washington &Global Powers telling the Palestinians to be greatful for scraps. NEVER!

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16.70View >Change? Mark Lincoln 05.02.11 01:02

Change? Whom? Hosni Netanyahu or Bibi Mubarak?

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15.120View >He doesn't deserve a second chance. Daniel 04.02.11 23:58

I'm always one for redemption, but Netanyahu has no chance of it. He'sscrewed up so bad on so many issues, beginning with the peace process,his handling of the Carmel Fire, and now the Chief of Staff fiasco, isit even possible to reverse this?

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14.30View >If you fortify your might, I promise to unleash my sword. Abu Hussein 04.02.11 23:50

No one ever defies me. Whoever does, will pay a very heavy price.

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13.181View >Netanyahu's achievement! Hugh 04.02.11 23:35

Netanyahu has united Persians, Turks, and Arabs. He has united secularand religious Moslems. He has united Sunni, Shia, and Druze. He hasunited Christians and Moslems. He is uniting North and South Americans,Europeans, Asians, and Africans. In 5,000 years of known history, noone has come close to Netanyahu in uniting all of mankind against onesmall country.

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12.285View >Negotiatie with who? Roukoz 04.02.11 22:53

The Palestinians don't want to negotiate with Netanyahu, so he ain't gota second chance. However, he may try the Americans.

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11.3719View >A second chance for Netanyahu? Are you crazy? Mahatma Coat Magloves 04.02.11 22:50

Netanyahu, and his circle of advisers, have proven beyond any reasonabledoubt that they are not qualified to run a country. Turkey, Egypt,Lebanon, Europe, America. All have been alienated by right wing Israeliarrogance.Israel is losing rapidly.

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10.914View >Not so fast Rammer 04.02.11 22:40

Netanyahu's second chance is on hold right now. I have no doubt that thefinal solution will have to be through negotiations, but that will haveto wait. Right now the Palestinians want their state recognized andadmitted to the UN, and only then will they negotiate.

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9.207View >If Israel would just stop with the secret offers Shannon 04.02.11 22:37

Israeli commentators often mention these historical generous"secret" offers to the Palestinians and/or their Arabneighbours. But many doubt the existence of these offers, preciselybecause they're kept secret. Myself, I've come to conclude that theIsraeli negotiators just have an obsession of keeping their offerssecret. Maybe there's good reasons, but I don't know. I think they'recounter-productive. Arguably, Israel has an image problem that justkeeps getting worse, and I think part of it is this lack of publicnegotiating positions. It causes many to assume Israel does not WANT to negotiate...

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113View >If you are paying attention, it is the Palestinians who are refusing to negotiate Dr. L. Brnd 04.02.11 23:31

And the fact that Abbas and Erekat are making "secret" offersto Israel in English, (as exposed by Al-Jazeera-Leaks), which are 180degrees opposite of what they tell their own people, in Arabic, stronglysuggests a fake and fraudulant "negotiation" by the PLO, withterms it intends never to honor, one it gets a state.

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90View >NO to secret offers and secret negotiations 005veiK 05.02.11 00:15

What you said is absolutely true. Years ago, the UN discussions thatresulted in partition of the land and recognition of an Israeli statewere ALL done in public. This is how it must be again for thedetermination of final borders and recognition of a Palestinian state.

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8.2823View >HUH? Bibi should notmove an inch toward "land-for-Peace" withAbbas untilit is clear the Camp david peace will be 100.0% honored byany new Egypt regime Dr. L. Brnd 04.02.11 22:31

If any slight reneging by Egypt on the Camp David peace treaty occurs(the treaty that gave Egypt the "every grain of sand itwanted"), Israel has a right to expect massive UN, EU and USeconomic and military sanctions imposed, along with a free hand forIsrael to recapture and annex the Sinai. Or "Land for Peace"is a joke, the Palestinians should not expect anything, and Israel has afree hand to do what it wants without UN or Quartet interference.

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480View >Dr. Brnd does not even know what the second 1978 Camp David accord-titled "A Framework for the Conclusion of a Peace Treaty betweenEgypt and Israel" says. Crazy Horse 05.02.11 02:02

If he did know, he would realize Israel has consistently violated the1978 Camp David agreement, along with ongoing violations of Oslo andRoad Map stipulations regarding Settlement construction. Specifically,the Camp David accord stipulates full implementation of UN resolution242 and withdrawal of Israeli troops from the West Bank and Gaza AFTERelection of a self-governing authority to replace Israel's militarygovernment. Instead of that, Israel annexed East Jerusalem, withdrewfrom Gaza BEFORE election of said self-governing authority (for it's owncovert reasons), and IDF troops REMAIN in the West Bank even today.ISRAEL IS THE VIOLATOR OF ALL THESE AGREEMENTS.

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7.119View >Deafening silence Stuart Corrigan England 04.02.11 22:08

Over the last week we have heard many worried voices fromIsrael, these being senior figures and the PM, this is morethan justified as israel would like to keep Egypt on side andpreserve the treaty. There appears though to be a deafeningsilence from Avigdor Lieberman, how on earth is he managing tokep himself restrained through all of this? This is very muchout of character for the outspoken foreign minister, it makesone wonder has he been gagged?

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50View >Deafening silence>>>> Stuart Corrigan England Brendan Kelly ...London/England 05.02.11 00:26

Beware the silence Stuart..Biding his time until BB gives him the"get go" Then you'll see the rush of WORDS flying in ourdirection.Lieberman has to keep mum for now.The prevailing circumsranceswith Egypt demands cautiousness.

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6.2828View >Bibi is Belshazzar at his last feast, reading the handwriting on thewall: "The Saudi Plan Is Israel's Last Chance, and FinalOffer". Game over, as they say in Cairo. Ivar 04.02.11 21:56

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5.4428View >Blind Men Cannot Move Forward Yaakov Sullivan 04.02.11 21:45

their own arrogance has overtaken them, their sense of entitlement doesnot allow for compromise. Israel is dominated by relgious/nationalistextremism and that will not change because, unlike Egypt, there is nonational will to change the status quo which does not bode well forIsrael.

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4.2326View >Why in the world would Netanyahu want a peace agreement with thePalestinians? What would he gain? Natallie Durson 04.02.11 21:43

No Israeli leader will voluntarily make peace with the Palestinians.Not only is this political suicide, but it may also be a more literalform of suicide as well. Ask Rabin for details. Israel gains nothingfrom peace. Let me say that again. Israel gains NOTHING frmo peace.Some people say that peace will diminish the attacks from militants.Nope. It won't. If Hamas are not included in the peace agreement, thenit will likely INCREASE the number of attacks from militants. Israelwill respond to these attacks and kill some civilians and then where isyour peace? Poof! It is gone. Let's say that Hamas is included andthe attacks to stop. What does Israel give in exchange? A massivesettlement withdrawal, a halt to future settlement expansion, loss ofcontrol of Palestinian movement, serious domestic turmoil withinIsrael, serious turmoil within the IDF, and I am just getting started.Who, in his right mind, would volunteer for such a thing? Don't get mewrong. I believe that the rocky road to peace must be traveled, but Iam not naive enough to think that an Israeli PM would lead the way. IfIsrael is ever forced to make peace, it will be with kicking andscreaming at every step. Journalists such as Aluf Benn must surelyunderstand this. It is so obvious. Are journalists part of a looseconspiracy with Israeli politicians to pretend that Israel really wantspeace? I know that this pretense is necessary for the politicians, butI would think that journalists would be more honest.

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120View >Helen Natalie, your right 05.02.11 01:02

Israel will not work towards peace with the Palestinians, given thatpeace can only be attained if is there is justice. unless and until itis clear that Israel actually loses if it maintains the status quo. Whatpossible motivation can any Israeli govt (lets face it, Netanyahu andthe present govt aren't taking Israel in a new direction) have to dealfairly with legitimate Palestinian demands. Agree with Natalie that itis plain silly to believe that any Israeli govt is capable of providingthe leadership needed to reach a just settlement with the Palestnians.

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101View >Memo to Durson t 05.02.11 01:44

Peace will diminish the attacks from militants because one thePalestinians accept a peace deal they will police the militants - themilitants will lose their power.

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3.1014View >By giving up East Jerusalem to the Islamists, there is no second chancein my book! Fortuna Benmayor 04.02.11 21:33

Netanyahu will sit and do nothing, watching the Islamists take overEgypt and open a new front against the Jewish state. From now, I willbe voting Beiteinu, the only decent party with Shas.

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011View >Fortuna > Good luck I am with you all the way. By giving up EastJerusalem to the Islamists,there is no second chance.Quite right too. Daniel Kelly London England 05.02.11 00:32

Were I Israely or an Israeli Jew, or even an Israeli/Arab I too wouldvote for Lieberman's party. People like to denigrate him,with thoughtsof ultra religiousness.But the man does NOT aspire to extrareligiousness but pure patriotism.Only fools would think being a patriotis a sin.

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2.1714View >By giving up East Jerusalem to the Islamists, there is no second chancein my book! Fortuna Benmayor 04.02.11 21:33

Netanyahu will sit and do nothing, watching the Islamists take overEgypt and open a new front against the Jewish state. From now, I willbe voting Beiteinu, the only decent party with Shas.

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1.3833View >A second chance. Definitely to quell the Islamist threat pendingagainst the Jewish people. Cipora Julianna Kohn 04.02.11 21:32

With the Egyptian army occupied keeping the peace in Cairo, this is thebest occasion for the most moral army in the world to mobilize andprotect the Sinai. This would guarantee that the Islamists could notreopen the Rafa crossing (which would allow Nuclear material fromgetting in the hands of Hamas Taliban) and would allow Israel to have adefensible border with the Suez canal.

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2322View >Cipora, when you say most moral army, whom are you talking about? Dino 04.02.11 22:34

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3427View >I am sure that Mubarak appreciates the support of right wing Israelis,as if he didn't have enough troubles Natallie Durson 04.02.11 22:39

Poor Mubarak! Almost all the Egyptians hate him and the right wingIsraelis love him. Could there ever be a more certain indication that aleader has not served his people well?

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011View >One doesn't have to be a right wing Israelis,nor left for thatmatter.But Mubarak was a steadying force surely you must agree Natallie Durson/ Daniel Kelly London England 05.02.11 00:38

Mubarak may be a dictator,but can you point out to me any Arabcountry who's ledears are not dictators?Anyone will do. Can you?

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151View >Cipora, why the weasel-words? Johnboy 05.02.11 01:32

"this is the best occasion for the most moral army in the world tomobilize and protect the Sinai." You are, of course, advocating anIsraeli war of aggression against another country, so that Israel cansnatch the Sinai and so gain the lebensraum that you so dearly want. Byall means do so, and we'll all see how well that pans out......

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Egypt transition vital for Mideast peace: Ban(AFP) – 1 hour ago

MUNICH, Germany — An orderly transition in Egypt is essential to the peace process between Israelis and Palestinians, UN chief Ban Ki-moon said Sunday, a day after attending a Middle East Quartet meeting.

"Egypt has been playing a very strategic role in the Middle East peace process. President (Hosni) Mubarak was one of the key players in trying to facilitate reconciliation," Ban told reporters in Munich, Germany.

"Overall in the Middle East peace process he has participated and contributed," he said.

"This is what we are concerned about, and that is why we would like to see this transition take place in an orderly and peaceful manner without having any negative sudden impacts on the overall peace and stability in this region."

On Saturday Ban took part in a Quartet meeting in Munich with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

In a statement afterwards, the grouping called on all parties "to undertake urgently efforts to expedite Israeli-Palestinian and comprehensive Arab-Israeli peace, which is imperative to avoiding outcomes detrimental to the region."

"The Quartet meeting took place at a critically important time, considering what has happened in this region. It has serious implications for continuing a peace negotiation process," Ban said Sunday.

He said it was important that the Quartet had agreed to step up its engagement in order to get the stalled peace process "back on track."

"We will do our best efforts," Ban said.

He said that the next Quartet talks would likely take place on the sidelines of a Group of Eight (G8) foreign ministers' meeting, which is due on March 26-27 in Paris.

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